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CSAC Minutes - October 20, 2005
NC Charter School
Advisory Committee Meeting
State Board of
Education 7th Floor Meeting Room
NC Department of
Public Instruction
October 20, 2005
Draft Minutes
Attendance/CSAC
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Tannis Nelson
John Geil
Sandy Carmany
Michael Fedewa
Kate Alice Dunaway
Simon Johnson
Nancy Farmer
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Alfred Bryant
Richard Clontz
JoAnne Woodard
Ben Currin
Absent: John Crowder, Tony Cozart,
Arlene Ferren
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Attendance/SBE/DPI
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State Board of Education
Absent: Kathy Taft
Office of Charter Schools
Jack Moyer, Director
Jackie Jenkins, Consultant
Joel Medley, Consultant
Absent: Carl Pridgen
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Attorney General’s Office
Laura Crumpler
SIMS Consultant
Scott Douglass
School Business
Paul LeSieur, Director
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Welcome/Approval of Draft Minutes:
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Chairman Fedewa, when a quorum was met, called the
meeting to order.
The draft minutes from the September 22, 2005 meeting
were presented for review and approval. A motion was made to approve the
minutes by Sandy Carmany and was seconded by Nancy Farmer. The minutes
were approved without dissent.
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Update: Rowan Academy
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Mr. Archie Jarrell, the board chair, and Franklin
Downing, another board member, were present representing Rowan Academy.
First, the school’s first day attendance was 26
children; and since then, the numbers have risen to 55 (October 20,
2005). Also, 4 more students are enrolling and will be at school on
Monday, October 24, 2005. Second, and in finance, issues are being
resolved as all rent/wages are currently covered. Third, they are also
applying for grant funding and offering fundraisers to assist in covering
the existing debt. Some additional funding will be coming to the school
through the Food Lion Foundation. Finally, the school’s business plan
revolves around their staying open and satisfying the immediate,
short-term goals (now through December 31, 2005).
Chairman Fedewa reiterated that their huge deficit
needed a certain number of students to break even, and he asked what was
being done to cover the debt. Mr. Jarrell responded that the school is
continuing to seek money from contributors to make all the payments.
Their break-even point is between 85 and 90 students, so they are running
a deficit at this time and need funds beyond state or local to cover that
expense. Nancy Farmer asked for the specifics on the debt, and Mr.
Jarrell said the debt is approximately $75,000 without interest accruing.
Chairman Fedewa asked again about the school’s
“drop-dead” date, which the school has not yet set but agreed to do so at
the last meeting. Ms. Carmany stated a concern that the business plan
relies so much upon grants.
Mr. Johnson asked where the students have been coming
from because their population has grown by more than 50%. Mr. Jarrell
said that students are coming because parents did not want their children
to get further behind at their existing schools in the northern part of
the county. The school has been targeting the students that are behind in
the LEA to attract them to Rowan and, thereby, raise their achievement
levels. Mr. Franklin explained how the school’s number are growing
because of the success they are seeing and that Rowan Academy’s parents
are talking so positively about the school.
Chairman Fedewa pointed out that the committee’s
issue is not with school performance because the school has done well.
The issue is financial and the lack of numbers per the SBE policy. Mr.
Franklin stated that he has verbal financial commitments but those
commitments are yet to be finalized. Mr. Moyer asked if any of those
commitments could be put into writing by a specific date to alleviate the
comfort level of the CSAC.
Mr. Jarrell stated that every day the school is open
they, as a school, must raise additional funds to prevent the debt from
increasing. He also added that the school can and will go ask for written
commitments. The question arose as to whether another extension can be
offered. Chairman Fedewa pointed out that furthering the process needs to
focus on the transition of the children into the LEA schools because Rowan
Academy may not survive.
Ms. Farmer suggested that the CSAC create a specific
rubric for the November 10, 2005 meeting. Sandy Carmany made a motion
that the student numbers be at least 65 and that all promissory notes to
cover the outstanding debt be in writing. Their school’s deadline is to
be November 9. It was seconded by Tannis Nelson, and the motion carried
without dissent.
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Update: Two Rivers Community School
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Natalie Lewis, the board chair, and Jennifer Kearse,
a board member, were present representing Two Rivers Community School. As
they were coming forward, Joel Medley walked the committee through the
packet of information that outlines the history with the school.
Mr. Clontz asked as to why the principal was not in
attendance, and Ms. Kearse responded that the principal has been dismissed
from her position by the board. The board members had not received any of
the communication from the Office of the Charter Schools through the
principal. Chairman Fedewa asked a clarifying question – did the board
know about the mandate from the Office of Charter Schools not to open.
The board did not find out until later, but they did operate on the letter
from the attorney at ASU stating the Broyhill Center was acceptable for a
school.
Mr. Moyer asked if the board retained an attorney.
Ms. Lewis and Ms. Kearse had not spoken with the attorney nor were they
aware of the letters from the attorney. Steve Rigell, a board member, had
initiated the relationship with the attorney and relayed information – the
way to keep the charter was to retain the attorney. The attorney also
advised them not to attend the September 22, 2005 meeting; so they
followed his advice. Chairman Fedewa asked if the board is presently
retaining the attorney, and she said they are revamping – adding new board
members, dismissed the principal, and Steve Rigell resigned.
The school has 83 children enrolled and believes the
average will come to 80. Ms. Kearse is serving as the interim principal
and the board has met with a gentleman to see if he would be interested in
taking the position at Two Rivers.
The board will fax the calendar, new list of the
board members, and board minutes to the Office of Charter Schools. Ms.
Kearse did mention that significant turnover had occurred on the board and
that was part of the issue.
The board mentioned that they did not know of the
situation that had been taking place; and they were operating on half of
the information. Mr. Currin asked if something could be put into place
for communication to get the information to the boards. Mr. Moyer
informed the CSAC that the Office of Charter Schools actively sought the
contact info but did not get sent to them. Further, the school had been
through board training prior to opening.
Ms. Crumpler asked if they knew an attorney had been
retained. Ms. Kearse said that they knew Steve was having a conversation
with an attorney. The board voted that Steve would be the liaison between
the board and the attorney. He has not been paid by the board.
Mr. Moyer asked why the board did not call the Office
of Charter Schools. Ms. Lewis said that she had a phone conversation with
someone, briefly, about the certificate of occupancy requirement. Mr.
Moyer asked why the Office of Charter Schools received numerous phone
calls from parents but never a board member. Ms. Kearse said they were
operating on information from Linda, which furthered the non-communication
issue.
Mr. Geil pointed out that this is a serious
governance issue and asked that the school make an action plan, in
writing, to the Office of Charter Schools. If he has been fired as the
board’s attorney, then would the liability of insurance be valid (attorney
Adkins is listed as the policy holder).
Ms. Kearse explained that the first time they spoke
to attorney Adkins was on Monday, October 17, 2005. Mr. Adkins asked to
be put on speaker phone and spoke about how hard the Rigells worked on the
charter school. They thanked him, ended the conversation, and then moved
forward with their meeting to dismiss the principal.
Ms. Dunaway suggested that this board go through
board training again because of the turnover and issues that have arisen.
Dr. Jenkins agreed with the suggestion by Ms. Dunaway. She also added
that the board members that left during the planning year were over
miscommunication between the board and the former director. They were
advised to not have the husband/wife relationship on the board nor would
Linda serve as the director. The husband did step aside from the board
for a time; but upon his return, he nominated his wife to be the director.
Chairman Fedewa suggested several things – submit the
requests from the Office of Charter Schools (i.e. new calendar, board
names and contact info, verification of insurance, etc.), board training
within a month, written action plan from the board, and the board to find
if this insurance policy is valid. The Office of Charter Schools will
provide a report at the November meeting.
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Renewal Concerns:
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Visions Charter – the concern for the
school, during this renewal phase, was the low enrollment numbers (56).
Mr. Willis, the new director at Visions, was present to provide some
information. He has been at the school for about 2 months and admitted
the school is trying to change its image in the area while also attracting
new students. He admitted the budget is not as strong as it should be.
Mr. Moyer added that the certificate of occupancy was on the way to the
Office of Charter Schools because he had a phone conversation with the
inspector this morning.
Mr. Willis described the school population – largely
a poor, white student population. He has reached out into the Hmong and
Hispanic populations of the area. The school had some issues in the past
and is still trying to change that reputation. Chairman Fedewa asked
about the number of board members, and Mr. Willis answered 5. The board
is presently looking for ideas to increase the enrollment; and Mr. Clontz
said that the school has, in the past, had more than 200 children.
Chairman Fedewa charged Mr. Willis to get a plan in
place, in concert with the board, to raise the enrollment. Mr. Moyer
asked for the plan to be in place one week before the CSAC meeting and
have that emailed to the Office of Charter Schools.
Jackie Jenkins shared what happened at the school –
claims of sexual abuse, kids being put in closets, and taping children to
desks. That information hit the newspaper and the students flocked away
from the school. Chairman Fedewa said that he needed to review the
original charter, see why those children came to the school in the first
place, and then began to work there.
Ann Atwater Charter – Chairman Fedewa
commented that the school has been blitzing the paper with advertisements
about open slots at their school, but Mr. Moyer pointed out some concerns
that he has with the school. Ann Atwater communicated with the Office of
Charter Schools about waiting on an action plan, but no such plan was
required by the CSAC. Further, they did not submit a renewal last year;
and if they do not receive a renewal this year, then their school must
close as their charter will expire.
If the school is not above 65 students, then the
school cannot be renewed; so discussion ensued as to the options
available. They have less than a month to get the numbers where they
should be. As Chairman Fedewa summarized: “November is an up or down
vote for them.”
A discussion followed on the tracking of late reports
by the Office of Charter Schools. Ms. Dunaway shared that when she was a
principal she called for assistance. The concern, with Ann Atwater, is
that the school has a pattern of late reports and not asking for
assistance.
Lakeside Charter – they school did
resubmit their application to add the information on alternative
assessment. That information, on page 7 of their self-study, was
presented to the CSAC.
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Consultant Update:
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Jackie Jenkins did not really have a report but
listed some schools visited.
Joel Medley went over the Laurinburg site visit
mentioning the positive and negative situations at the school. He also
provided a copy of his report and a reply from the Cynthia McDuffie for
the committee’s review.
Karen Frazier did not have any financial issues;
however, the second allotment will be available October 26. She also has
visited several schools offering financial training and listed some of
those schools.
Mr. Moyer provided an updated on East Winston. Their
10 day response period, thereby challenging the revocation, ends October
21, 2005; and without any response, the charter expires. Mr. LeSieur
readjusted the funding only for 13 students translating into $57,000 of
state money for the year.
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Minute Clarification:
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Tannis Nelson made a
motion to amend the minutes of the Sept. 22 meeting by inserting the
reason for going into Executive session -- client /attorney privilege. The
motion was seconded by Sandy Carmany carried unanimously.
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Adjournment
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Completing all business, the meeting was adjourned.
The next meeting is November 10, 2005 at 11am.
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Minutes submitted by Joel E. Medley, Consultant, Office of
Charter Schools.
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